Let me just say, as an avid reader of your blog, and a fashion student myself, I was a little bit disappointed reading this post. It seemed a bit judgmental to me, though I may be taking it the wrong way. Just to let you know, most days, I’m lucky if I’ve had enough time to do laundry and have clean clothes, much less stylish ones. When I go out or have a day to relax (so rare!) I like to get dressed up. But for class…why wear something nice when you’ll just get thread and dye all over it? Case in point-when one is an artist, it is not about what you wear, it is about what you create.
If you’re studying fashion, there’s no excuse for not having stylish clothes, you’re supposed to represent your design aesthetic through your lifestyle, and getting dressed everyday is a big part of that, you don’t have to be dressed up to be well dressed.
When studying fashion, there’s a really good excuse for not having beautiful cloths and not looking great- not having enough money and not enough sleep. When all your money goes on fabrics, one’s wallet empties pretty fast. A student’s design aesthetic develops over time, that’s the point of being in college.. and let me tell you, fashion college is so tough, if you haven’t walked in the shoes don’t judge. When you havent slept due to volumes of work and haven’t eaten properly from lack of funds, looking pretty and chic is so removed from reality. The driving force is getting your degree, looking pretty and chic is for presentation days after all the hard work has been handed in and there are no tears left to cry. I’ve done it and I have the scars to prove it. This lady looks so stunningly beautiful, I would love to know why does she look so calm??????? I want to study fashion at her college!!!!
Just like someone said below, look at her hair and make up, you can see she looks tired but her blouse and maybe nails make all the difference, and I don’t think you’re getting the point here, if you’re that interested in fashion you make it a part of your life, you don’t need to look like a trainwreck on the outside just because you have a a heavy workload at school. Money and sleep have nothing to do with one’s sense of style.
thank you! i’m poor and overworked too, but i still dress well. no one said these complainers have to buy expensive designer clothes, just show some pride and self-respect. it takes the same amount of time to put on a blouse and pants as it does to put on sweats.
SLEEP has NOTHING to do with one s sense of style?….hahahahaha ahahaah ahahaha ahahhaa ahahahaha sorryyyyyyyyyy, but i didnt slept for ohmygod! ahahahahahahahah seriously, i was, to the most, walking. that was all i could do, take my train/bus.get there, do class”/hit work, (transp again)hit home, dinner, assignments, bed/shower(2!hs)and repeat. i respect your personal experience, so i share with you mine.greetings!
No, not having enough money is not an excuse. Scott does not mention anything about wearing expensive clothes. He said “[i]t was so nice to see fashion students that actually dressed like they wanted to be in the fashion business.” “Dressed like” suggests the way one dresses, i.e. style. Style does not have to be expensive – I would have thought this was painfully obvious by now. I have a lot of friends who went through fashion school, and ALL of them, being on low budgets, would shop in local thrift shops or budget clothing shops. Their ensembles would always be well-styled and individual, but nonetheless affordable.
Exactly, the way designers dress does not have to be a reflection of their art. Mary Katrantzou always wears all black and Alexander McQueen was famous for his very casual attire. One does not have to dress fashionably to create. Designers are not sylists or editors – their wardrobes do not have to be a comment on their aesthetics.
I wanted to bring up Alexander McQueen’s example but I’m glad someone has already thought about it.
I went to art school and some of the best fashion designs came from people who didn’t look trendy at all.
Having a uniform means having curated your style. Open their closet doors and see how everything goes together. THAT is style.
Why shouldn’t you look beautiful while studying? It seems a bit like ‘now that I’m a mother, I do not have to wear nice clothes and have gorgeous hair’… I love it when people take care of themselves and look beautiful, whatever they’re doing!
Exactly. As an artist, if you’re constantly in your craft, it’s easy to dress in grungy clothes every day because it’s likely you’ll get them dirty, but then that becomes your everyday uniform and you never make the effort to look nice because you always have the (legitimate) excuse of getting messy.
When I started studying painting, I decided not to dress down to paint because style was important to me, and I knew I’d be painting everyday. 5 years later, I’ve still only ruined one outfit. Like Alex said, you don’t have to be dressed up to be well dressed.
Nicely said. Just leaving the word “actually” out would have conveyed that this gal and the other students dress well…not that the rest of the world of fashion students doesn’t. I don’t think it’s necessary to compare one group to another with a normative statement in order to say something is good. I kind of sense that a lot on this blog…the “even in Delhi,” “even in Chicago,” “even in Harlem” people can look good sentiment. That the expectation might have been otherwise is…difficult for me.
seriously?! everybody is busy. being a fashion student doesn’t mean you’re busier than i am. my med student friends are probably a lot busier than you are. it’s all about your priorities, and if fashion is so important to you than you should at least care enough to dress well. i’m not going to buy clothes from someone who can barely dress herself, that’s for sure.
with all due respect to all those who say someone in fashion should follow their design aesthetic through in the way they look, well sometimes being ‘busy’ isnt even the reason why a fashion student may not dress well for college.
for some, like me, i study fashion design full time and i study makeup part time as well as doing an unpaid internship to gain experience and i work a paid job on the weekends, and i get in my assessments and at that, i work so, so, so hard to get them to a high standard. being in fashion you have to manage your time, practice is good, so i agree.
for me, its actually money. i work so little hours in the week i earn around $60. and ive had to enlist my parents for help. the last thing i can think about is buying stylish clothes, especially after the cost of materials.
and i can hear you all saying ‘clothes dont have to be expensive’. but if i want to follow my DESIGN AESTHETIC, as you all keep saying, they generally are. i want good quality pieces! that are timeless and pieces that i love, ones that i can make current with accessories. i would rather save what little money i have for pieces like this. however in the mean time, i make do with what i have, and often these are just rags. they aren’t ‘current’ and ‘fashion forward’ and ‘stylish.’
no, i’d much rather think ahead and build my wardrobe over time, and even then, keep those pieces for days i wont ruin them with thread and fabric paint.
please, it hurts me to think that people think we are just too lazy, like i dont work my ******* ass off as it is. reality is money and practically are a huge issue.
Fashion students frequently don’t dress well? Who knew! I guess they’re students first and fashion lovers second, but those shouldn’t be incompatible. When I was in college, I wore the cargo shorts and t shirt uniform.
Ah yes, I remember my days as a design student. At the beginning of the term everybody looked chic and stylish. Mind you by the end of the year, most looked like they rolled out of bed threw on the first clean item of clothing they could find and hauled their butt to class. People should always try to find time to look great, especially if they are pursuing a career in fashion. ;)
I couldn’t agree more. When I was in fashion school, I have to admit there were a few days when I wasn’t at my most polished self but overall I’d say wearing jogging pants, or tank tops everyday wasn’t my route either.
Lovely shot! She looks adorable, super sweet and very chic! I love the old-fashioned vibe that her outfit gives…reminds me of a modern-day Coco Chanel right at work in her atelier. I’m sure that your trip was quite inspiring. Thank you for the lovely shots yesterday and today!
Most of us know she came from abject poverty, abandonment, horrid abuse. But she was the definition of a determined genius, and understood the power of her personal style in fashion.
Her artistry, skill, cleverness and drive created
She worked tirelessly, passionately, brilliantly, always dressed in her own modern style which was far less inhibiting then the style of the time. Because of her enormous creative influence, business savy, and personally wearing her own fashions, Coco Chanel was one of the great influencers/game changers on the the long road to women’s rights. I seriously doubt she personally ever had a style-less day, no matter her exhaustion.
Besides, it just feels better to look good, especially if facing a tough day .
Mexican style is inimitable: whether the classic chilango preppy or a traditional Wirikuta shaman! This is true for architecture, graphics, horticulture, film, food—un estilo sabroso y 100% Hecho en Mexico!
I’m always shocked that fashion students especially would fail to dress nicely (even on a tight budget you can dress nicely). Fashion is fundamentally a different type of art than the kind you hang on the wall. If you just want to look at something pretty, go into painting. Clothes, however, must move with the wearer. Plenty of people can make clothes that look nice on a hangar, a mannequin, or even a model standing still in front of a mirror. To really understand garment design you must wear those cuts and those clothes every day. What seaming do you need so that you can reach a high bookshelf without pulling shirt buttons or showing 6 inches of midriff? What type of facing and stitching will cause the garment to lay flat the way you want it to? What piece did you buy that looked great in the mirror but wore terribly. With any profession, practice counts for a great deal, and you should start practicing from day 1.
Helen, tell me the designers/brands who do this and I will eventually beat a pathway to their door. I walk, cycle, climb stairs, play with kids and move props and equipment around every day and if I want stylish clothes that work for my activities I usually end up making them.
Isn’t it just as easy to dress nice as to dress poorly? She hasn’t done anything special with her hair or makeup, just put on a collared shirt instead of an old t-shirt, and it made all the difference.
I think the trick is just simplifying your wardrobe so anything you choose looks polished. Even when you’re a tired student.
I agree, and when fashion comes naturally it is not an effort. I think Garance once wrote a post about getting dressed quickly. It always works for me. Sometimes it is in the quick moments that inspiration flashes.
Once in the industry, you will more than likely have to dress with style… That was certainly my experience.
Yes, I agree. A simple choice in a neat, collared shirt made the difference here. That choice either began not when she woke up that morning, rather with a wise purchase at a store, or a personal design project for her closest.
its not about dressing poorly”, or even about money”, its seriouslly about sleep for me. also, i went to fashion school …10years ago! trust me, fashion was different then, now everything is more stylish. i dont say i used to live on joggings, actually i never wear joggings, but i hit jeans, converse, t shirt and sweater, “no style” for fashion eyes, and besides that, any of my chic” outfits wouldnt survive public transportation! i wasnt dressed poorly, just not stylish, i hadnt gotten shot by S, if u know what i mean, besides as much i loveeeeeeeeeeeee blazers and shirts since a child, i quit those to expand on the boards and draw my a** out. im gonna call that love for design, instead all this fashiony chat.greetings!
I can’t help but think of the post Scott did before on the artist in the woods. “Good” style isn’t limited to what is polished, neat, grungy, baggy, tailored, etc. Style is self expression and can be showcased in many ways. Professionalism can be executed with or without certain prints or colors, fits or cuts – it’s all based upon the person wearing the ensemble and how they carry themselves. I wasn’t in fashion design, but I was a design student and have been in their exhausted shoes before and have carried their empty wallets myself. Dressing in brand names every day was not an option when working in the lab, but it was always a treat to get to wear them during presentations. It was quite the experience learning which brands you could lovingly say goodbye to over the years as they found themselves getting covered in plaster and bondo and which more expensive brands to save solely for presentation days.
The curved silhouette of the cloth near her right wrist coincides so perfectly with the plane of the table she’s working on. It forms an unusual illusion where it appears as if her arm is going below the table but her wrist is over it.
Centro is not an expensive school, and I see a lot of diversity in Mexico City , I believe because for a long time it was a city that welcomed inmigrante. First from the country sides and then from South America and Spain, while they were suffering dictatorships,
I think everyone can dress how he prefers, at work and during free time.
But if you really love fashion, and you’re actually obsessed with it, and have the pleasure to wear something cool and fashionable even when working.. when, that’s lovely too! Your personality well expressed in every situation! ;)
PS she is beautiful and chic
I prefer real street styles though!
She’s very pretty, but I think it’s unfair to expect all fashion design students to dress well all the time. They work long hours and often have to stay in work rooms. They often don’t have money. A Parsons student once told me that it was important to dress up all the time to establish one’s “brand” and impress the teachers, but that struck me as consumerist b.s.
I work in the fashion industry. I’m here in the office and the best dressed person is the woman in accounting and not the people in the design department. In my heart of hearts, I wish people had more fun getting dressed or made more of an effort.
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If you want to be taken seriously as a prospective professional you need to dress for the life you want, not the one you have. Never more so than if your actual business is fashion itself. Common sense.
As a lecturer of fashion students, there is no more piercing gaze than a room full of fashion students assessing your look. Likewise, management are always watching. I see this as to be expected when all around are fashion obsessed. I do it myself – all the time. I am obsessed with style. I love it. That is why I come here – to check people out. And for Scott’s great photography.
However, I would never mark a student’s work or give a reference based on their dress sense. In my experience though, stylish people can’t hide their style, even if they try.
When I was at FIT a million years ago there students who were always womped out in very expensive designer duds or very cool assemblages of home made and thrift store finds and then there were the rest who wore uniforms of jeans and sweatshirts. Many years later I can say that it had little baring on where we all ended up. Perseverance, talent, hard work, and intelligence makes a bigger difference than grooming.
I understand your point, Scott. As a classical pianist, what kind of image would I be presenting if my iPod only played hum-drum, low level, industry driven music? If I am studying to be a musician I give homage to my craft.
For those stating their reason for not dressing the part of a designer, just find a “uniform” look that is worthy of your profession and stick to it. Sew it yourself! Some of the most fashionable pieces are the most simple and yet thoughtful looks. This can be done on any budget.
This girl looks beautiful and her outfit is simple, yet chic.
I absolutely agree that you should look the part. Mexican women have always put out that effort on beauty and style but in the rest of N. American culture we just don’t believe we can or should have to bother.
I managed to get through university and a part-time job and law school, and I dressed up completely every day including exam days. If it matter to you, you will do it no matter what else because you can’t get away with it in working life when you have a family, and you will be even busier then. The idea that we are too busy to dress up and look serious about what we’re doing, or to busy to cook properly so we have to drive somewhere and eat awful junk food or heat up something packaged that isn’t even real food–yuck! What are we living for but to enjoy these things and put out our whole effort?
No amount of feel-good excuses will change the fact that other people looking at you WILL value you, and treat you according to how you present yourself. That’s a cold, hard fact, and not something I made up to be nasty!
What are we living for but to enjoy these things and put out our whole effort? ” _apparently we are living to satisfy other people s fantasy/idea/expectation/prejudice about how my life should be/or look like? and not even my life, but just an image of me. yes, i will be judged, its smart” to give in into that. then, we ll celebrate genius people who break the mold,like SJobs.sure.
ha! (sorry everyone im comment-ing on, im feisty today!)
I never think of Mexico City as a source of street style inspiration, but then again I haven’t been there in years. I’d imagine I’d see a lot of what I see here in Chicago because there are many Mexicans living here, especially in the summer when it’s blazing hot and humid…maybe like Mexico City?
I’m sorry to dissent, but I see nothing especially fashionable about a polyester blouse with tie that was common work wear in offices in the ’80s. As I recall when wearing those types of blouses, they were uncomfortable – too hot in the heat and cold in the air conditioning- , they stained easily, didn’t last through many cleanings, and generally looked boring.
My childhood friend growing up became a comic book artist. A successful one I might add. I remember him skipping lunch to use his lunch money on graphic novels, and in college he did the same with his hard earned teeny bits of cash. Its terribly disheartening to hear how some “fashion students” feel about their art. Like its just a bother, an expense and a time waster. Very sad indeed. If you love it, you live it.
i was sleeping 2/3 hours a day WHEN sleeping, and having seasons” of three days in a row WITHOUT sleeping, im not even gonna tell you what i wasnt doing either, but since i barelly got to shower before hitting college -via VERY crowded and filthy public transportation- dressing up was a …how to say it nicely….irrealistic glam life that u see in movies like devil wears prada and magazines that show a lifestyle you dont have when 184.108.40.206.22, etc. and the crazy part is, i wasnt offended till i read the realistic-bussiness-aproach on HOW to be a fashion student, cos, even if it is reality and word of advice from wise man, dont you think its sounds cr*ppy, too? like, demanding an 18 y.o person to think bussiness! hey! if u wanna make it” in the fashion industry” dress for prejudice! for shallow judging of you, get ready to be judge by the cover, hey, dont even get these years to just be you, be “someone”. …ok, sorry, maybe i went on a ramp here. dont get offended please, but …too cynical for 18 year old me to hear, and im way pass that, ha. greetings! sorry for ramping at your free will and liberty of expression!!
Working in a design or an art academy reaching your goals and following your creative instinct is a very hard thing and very difficult to be understood if you did not been in that path in your life. Clothes in atelier spaces should be comfortable and your goal is to make the best of you by your deadline. How many of us artists work in our ateliers dress for success ? We just ready to get dirty and follow the dive intervention that is making art and design. The day of the show that is a different business!
she’s wearing a basic while blouse, something I can get for 3$ at the good will. She’s not wearing much make up either.
This isn’t hard to match if you have little money or time. If you have a problem with dyes, wear darker colors. Keep to the classic styles and not be trendy so you can get those ‘off season’ discounts. Keep in mind what your needs are when you do have time to go shopping. I shop for clothes about 3-4 times a year and do laundry every other month (yeah a lot of loads so I bring books to study or sketch in or notebook for other work).
I keep my place stocked with basic foods (that I don’t have to do much cooking) that I can snack on, but are still good for me.
I paint and often deal with messy materials and work spaces, but that doesn’t mean my work clothes have to be ugly sweats. They’re confortable enought for me to take a quick nap in (if its serious crunch time).
I”m paying part of tuition, rent, food, and supplies out of pocket with less then 700$ a month (florida so not as much as NY but still). I stil look decent (unless its freezing in the classroom).