Sunday, February 9, 2014

APC Butler Program REPOST

APC1WebI was really surprised and touched by the passionate response to this post.


What I think I understood from the comments, is that there is not really another item of clothing that can capture the personality and history of a person as perfectly as a well-worn pair of jeans.


Sneakers? A leather jacket?


What these commentors seemed to have in common is that they search for the perfect pair of jeans and then wear them to death, literally.  I understand that concept, but I like/wear white jeans, black jeans, raw denim and pre washed– basically it would take me forever to get one pair of jeans to that condition on my own! Years ago, I had some Levis 501s that wore out like that, but I would never wear them now, not the fault of the denim, but the leg is just too full cut for me now.


I learned something from that post, so please let’s keep the fact that I bought them that way stay just between us million or so friends.


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  1. Margaret

    February 9, 2014 at 12:21 pm

    I do hope the fashion doesn’t change in the near future as rapidly as it did some years ago. Ever since I was little I would wear full leg jeans or even bellbottoms, and I had some perfect ones when I was a teen, really perfectly worn in. But now that we’re all about slim jeans I can hardly picture myself going back to those once perfect jeans. Will that happen again? Am I a total sucker for even asking?

  2. Aqeel Fikree

    February 9, 2014 at 1:22 pm

    Your secret is safe with us.

    • andreea

      February 9, 2014 at 3:25 pm

      you stole the words from my mouth! :P

    • robert c harvey

      February 10, 2014 at 1:04 pm

      Dear Scott,
      Nothing comes between you and your jeans! Nothing!

  3. Susanna

    February 9, 2014 at 1:52 pm

    I like the idea of the program as it essentially recycles jeans that have outlived their use to the owner. My favourite pair of jeans was acquired secondhand for free already full of holes and wear, then I proceeded to destroy them even more by wearing them for an entire cross-country backpacking trip. My point is that a pair of jeans does not have to be bought new and destroyed exclusively by one original owner to tell a story.

  4. barbara seiler

    February 9, 2014 at 2:38 pm

    “What I think I understood from the comments, is that there is not really another item of clothing that can capture the personality and history of a person as perfectly as a well-worn pair of jeans.”

    yes. With emphasis on “well-worn” and not “jeans”.

    I find it so expensive and/or time-consuming to find good clothing, that of course, once I find something really good, I wear it until it falls to pieces. This kind of thing is so hard to find, I won’t let go of an item easily once I have it. I’ll wear it the longest time possible.

  5. Judith A. Ross

    February 9, 2014 at 2:43 pm

    Here’s another thought: Next time you go to Morocco for a few weeks just wear the one pair of denim jeans. We have sent our son 2-3 pairs of brand new dark-wash Levis while he has been living there — every care package costs at least $50 or so to mail. Anyway, in those dry, dessert conditions between the sun, the sweat in summer, and the sand, they look like your worn pair in no time at all.

    But yes, your “secret” is definitely safe with me.

    • ilona

      February 10, 2014 at 7:44 am


  6. Fashion Handbags

    February 9, 2014 at 4:22 pm

    Nothing wrong with that. I promise I won’t tell a soul.

  7. Rathe

    February 9, 2014 at 4:54 pm

    501s never go out of style. I wear mine with pride.

  8. N

    February 9, 2014 at 5:13 pm

    And what’s wrong with a perfectly worn out pair of dress pants?

  9. Corner of my eye

    February 9, 2014 at 6:21 pm

    That is interesting how attitude can be changed. Some time ago I could pay the highest price for denim items, would always buy them from some luxury brand and would wear them every day till they get shabby. They were always deep blue, slim.
    Now I just never wear jeans or if I wear them it would be from some fast fashion brand.

    Still denim is like black – always good, always iconic

  10. Cool Never Fades

    February 9, 2014 at 9:47 pm

    RE: Levi 501

    Consider taking your well worn and loved 501s to the tailor and having the legs recut to exactly the way you want them.

    • Grant

      February 10, 2014 at 9:41 pm

      They would still be too deep in the seat. We’ve moved on.

  11. chip guy

    February 9, 2014 at 10:18 pm

    Such character to be created with a good, quality pair of jeans. The term wabi-sabi applies to items such as jeans, leather jackets, boots, etc. I am on the search for a great pair of jeans that will last for time to come. Good stuff.

    • Newman

      February 11, 2014 at 11:50 am

      Any good Japanese make will last you for a long time if treated properly. Samuria, Edwin, Oni, Momotari and get a good weight 13-20 oz. Oni do a 20 oz denim that is incredible: if have the time or desire to break them in.

      There are other jean companies that use excellent denim, Roy in the US, Nudie is Swedish, Huit in the UK. Get to know denim before you waste money on fashion brands, google raw denim and a whole new world opens up.

  12. Rebecca

    February 9, 2014 at 10:41 pm

    This post has just taken me to the polar opposite of the posts I first fell for on this site: beautiful street photographs of imaginative New Yorkers from all walks of life showing great individual style.

    • tallulah

      February 11, 2014 at 3:33 pm

      I can only agree 100% with you.

  13. Matt A.

    February 9, 2014 at 11:38 pm

    Enjoy your jawnz!

  14. Jana H.

    February 10, 2014 at 6:51 am

    Yessss!!! The jeans are even better when you love them so much, you wear them over and over again till they get the used look by themselves.
    That’s why I love classic jeans the most, because they look used by me, not before I buy it, they get personality.

    Thanks so much!!

    Jana H.

  15. Janus

    February 10, 2014 at 7:47 am

    As Cool Never Fades wrote: Take ‘em to a tailor!

  16. melissa

    February 10, 2014 at 10:11 am

    Well, we all had less money then, and so we had just a few pairs of jeans, usually 501′s. So, just program yourself to stash your new found money away, and have two pairs that you wear to death…. SMILE….

  17. Sally

    February 10, 2014 at 11:12 am

    Fashion victim.

  18. Deeds

    February 10, 2014 at 11:18 am

    I work for a custom tailor. We also do alterations. Guy came in with his six pairs of PRPS to have the holes patched and re-patched including a brand new pair of distressed denim. I just don’t get paying that kind of money for a pair of jeans with holes. Then paying to have the holes patched right away. I’ve been wearing Levi 501 since I was ten. I love breaking them in, making my own holes and memories. I broke down and bought a pair of their selvedge edge jeans from 1955 for a major birthday. They are great and look forward to seeing what they look like on the next major birthday.

  19. ClothesWHorse

    February 11, 2014 at 2:04 am

    When I was in high school I was a figure skater. I don’t want to brag, but I did a lot of sit spins so I had a pretty amazing bum. Friends brought me their jeans to break them in because they said my bum shaped the jeans just so. It was a stiffer denim then
    which I think wears much better, but also molds to the body instead of all the elastane in denim now (which sucks you in). It was difficult to part with my beautifully worn in jeans, but also nice to have a new pair to shape all over again. Denim and leather can never be too worn in.

  20. Signe Franks

    February 11, 2014 at 7:06 am

    Haven’t read all the original comments, so maybe someone has already mentioned this:
    Our local jeans company, Nudie Jeans, suggests breaking in dry denim jeans for six months before washing them.
    SF, Göteborg

  21. fuendetodos

    February 11, 2014 at 12:19 pm

    “the leg is just too full cut for me now” – why not have them altered / slimmed? nobody does that to denim? well then, start a trend for altering jeans to fit slim-fit trend :-)

  22. Quiequegg

    February 11, 2014 at 4:36 pm

    The upside of this Butler program is recycling. Once you are bored with your old pair of jeans, you can swap them for a new pair with a 50% rebate. This is smart.

  23. texica

    February 12, 2014 at 10:52 am

    check out the 1947 or 1954 version of the 501 from LVC. the 47 is slim straight as is the 54 but the 54 has more of a taper.

    signed, skinny legs.

  24. Martine

    February 12, 2014 at 11:27 am

    Won’t say a word!

  25. izzy

    February 14, 2014 at 3:37 pm

    I think most of the commenters don’t realize that their “new” denims are ALL broken in. In the “good old days”, you brought Levis that were literally stiff as a board – and shaped like a board too – then to “break them in” you put them on and sat in the tub until they developed a tolerance for the human shape. If you were Marilyn, you lay in hot water to shrink them (nothing really fit women), and then you always needed pliers to zip them – not a joke, ask your mom! All denim was black-blue, tough, and scratchy-stiff.

    God bless whoever thought of “prewash”, and whoever added Lycra is a saint!

  26. xavier

    February 15, 2014 at 12:30 am



  27. David

    February 17, 2014 at 3:54 pm

    First world countries dilemas……

    • tallulah

      February 18, 2014 at 4:43 pm


  28. Peter Hollomon

    July 24, 2014 at 10:32 pm


    Which cut of the A.P.C. denim collection do you usually wear? I’ve seen photos of you wearing what I see as a perfectly cut slim jean. Petite standard or new standard?

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