Monday, February 25, 2013

REPOST: On the Street….. Washington St., New York

A commenter wrote

“John Berger said that art is no longer when creation oversteps the inherent bounds of its media. Such is the case here – proportion, coherence, harmony be damned.”

 

Why would you want coherence and harmony from youth?

Youth is about mashing, breaking and reassembling life to find new answers for your generation.

 

That’s one of the reasons youth moves fashion, they haven’t found their harmony yet, and I’m thankful for that.

 

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  1. andreea

    February 25, 2013 at 8:10 am

    youth has its advantages :)

    http://littleaesthete.com

  2. Reptilia

    February 25, 2013 at 8:13 am

    He looks so cool! I love his coat!!

    http://www.justreptilia.com

    xx

  3. Denisa

    February 25, 2013 at 8:26 am

    He looks really cool. I like that outfit.

    http://www.fashiondenis.com/

  4. carol

    February 25, 2013 at 8:28 am

    totally love this outfit !

    http://franchemeetsfashion.blogspot.cz/

  5. ava

    February 25, 2013 at 8:29 am

    great comment – yours, i mean.

  6. Anastasios

    February 25, 2013 at 8:40 am

    Well said Scott! Well said!

  7. louise

    February 25, 2013 at 8:42 am

    ….& so we all should be!

  8. Els

    February 25, 2013 at 8:46 am

    Is dressing up Art? Are clothes Art? Is fashion Art? Is being young Art. There can be an art to them, certainly but ART? Then you may consider whether you agree with John Berger at all? Is Art static? Why? What is the purpose of pinning down Art, rather than let it be a living thing. Interesting thoughts, thanks mr. Schumann for questioning it.

    • Name*

      February 25, 2013 at 9:55 am

      Fashion is like architecture. A blending of visual statement and usefulness. I would call them both art with a capital A. But I don’t like to be pretentious, so i probably wouldn’t philosophize about it.

      • Libbynan

        February 26, 2013 at 7:47 am

        Agree with comment about pretension so will be brief. Coherence in art is about vision, not medium or materials. The young man’s vision of himself was coherent at the time he was dressing, so his outfit was artful and also useful. Since he is young his vision may be totally different tomorrow, but no less artful or useful

  9. Aqeel Fikree

    February 25, 2013 at 8:46 am

    Well said Scott.

  10. Jimena

    February 25, 2013 at 9:02 am

    perfect

  11. Lefedi Radebe

    February 25, 2013 at 9:02 am

    This is art!The coat looks too dapper!

  12. Bonnie, Clyde and Marni

    February 25, 2013 at 9:06 am

  13. coulda shoulda woulda

    February 25, 2013 at 9:07 am

    i just want to high five him while doing tequila shots all night. so cool.

  14. FripperyVintage

    February 25, 2013 at 9:27 am

    I totally agree, he looks awesome and who wants to look like everybody else?!

  15. Nico

    February 25, 2013 at 9:40 am

  16. Black and Olive

    February 25, 2013 at 9:45 am

    WELL SAID! Just love it… who needs Harmony???

    http://www.blackandolives.com/

  17. Martine

    February 25, 2013 at 9:55 am

    Hey, like a great man once said “I don’t know from art, but I know what I like!” I like it!

  18. SR

    February 25, 2013 at 10:01 am

    There is coherence and harmony here, it’s the “bounds of the medium” that he and others (NOT just “youth”) are continually changing. Isn’t that the art of style?

    • une chatte grise

      February 25, 2013 at 12:58 pm

      Your post + Monsieur Marcel’s (below) = a pretty darn good summing-up of the issue.

  19. A.

    February 25, 2013 at 10:16 am

    I was just thinking about this topic this weekend. Especially when it comes to hair. I have been thinking about a change in my hair cut lately since giving birth.

    My friend and her 16yr old daughter visited and the teenager had the coolest hair I had seen in a LOOONG while.

    Shaved and faded on the back and sides and long honey coloured hair sideswept on top of her head.
    I thought ‘I would totally do that if I were 16.’ but when you are a Mom in her 30′s it is far more difficult to take certain sartorial chances.

  20. Monsieur Marcel

    February 25, 2013 at 10:27 am

    The art critic Clement Greenberg was a great defender of the avant-garde:

    “Things that purport to be art do not function, do not exist, as art until they are experienced through taste. Until then they exist only as empirical phenomena, as aesthetically arbitrary objects or facts”.

    • Martine

      February 26, 2013 at 12:06 am

      Very well said. As much as I dislike critics of every stripe, thats a very interesting and largely sensible.

  21. Kirin

    February 25, 2013 at 10:33 am

    Various smart people have often said rules are meant to be broken. Perfection in the areas of proportion, coherence, and harmony very rarely lead me to think about what’s going on in front of me, they provide a kind of comfort, an ease, that I end up obliviously basking in as opposed to enjoying and considering and discussing.

  22. Rachel

    February 25, 2013 at 11:03 am

    He looks good…. really good :)

  23. kitchen afternoon

    February 25, 2013 at 11:08 am

    if you don’t have certain qualities in youth do they magically appear later?

  24. Oksana Radionova

    February 25, 2013 at 11:26 am

    Scott: 1 Commenter: 0

    Nothing beautiful comes out of boundaries and limits.

    • Joseph

      February 25, 2013 at 9:18 pm

      You have apparently never read a haiku poem!

  25. Jordan Lane

    February 25, 2013 at 11:50 am

    threads a woman could host. and yet the modern man will boast. def worth a repost.

  26. Kait | when we wander

    February 25, 2013 at 12:02 pm

    Well said!!!!

  27. Charlie Horst

    February 25, 2013 at 1:01 pm

    I like it all except for the pajama bottoms.

  28. Charlotte

    February 25, 2013 at 1:15 pm

  29. Mike

    February 25, 2013 at 1:25 pm

    He carries this off well. The quirkiness of the cropped printed pants works because he is so darn handsome.

  30. Kevin

    February 25, 2013 at 2:09 pm

    “Art is limitation; the essence of every picture is the frame. If you draw a giraffe, you must draw him with a long neck. If in your bold creative way you hold yourself free to draw a giraffe with a short neck, you will really find that you are not free to draw a giraffe.”

  31. Eva

    February 25, 2013 at 2:39 pm

    So true and this guy looks awesome!

    http://www.creativityandchocolate.blogspot.com

  32. Sandra

    February 25, 2013 at 2:41 pm

    Love the pants!
    Sandra

    http://lestylonoir.wordpress.com/

  33. Anna

    February 25, 2013 at 2:47 pm

    Love the trousers, awesome style!

    http://beblacknblue.blogspot.co.uk

  34. CCCC

    February 25, 2013 at 3:47 pm

    then again people may be using the word differently. calling something a piece of art vs the “art of” styling. some people say everything is art, some people reserve the word. maybe it is like how some people always say “I love you” while others save it to say only when they feel it really bares meaning (to them).

  35. justoutwalkin

    February 25, 2013 at 3:49 pm

    Intriging perspective. But, I won’t be wearing my pajama bottoms out anytime soon. Thoreau may have addressed this well in his comment “Live in each season as it passes…”

  36. Amy

    February 25, 2013 at 4:26 pm

    Love this – so true. If we didn’t have contrasts, mashups, and discord, everyone would look the same. Thank goodness for the risk-takers!

  37. Kate

    February 25, 2013 at 5:32 pm

    Youth and expression does create a certain vitality, and age brings a certain grace. And when these two exist together, it’s beautiful to behold!

  38. Anonymous

    February 25, 2013 at 9:12 pm

    He covers for TheFashionList.com & always looks phenomenal! This was during Fashion Week I think.

  39. Anonymous

    February 25, 2013 at 9:14 pm

    For those of you who know nothing about fashion those are not pajama bottoms. They are Paul Smith shark teeth print pants.

  40. milex

    February 25, 2013 at 9:24 pm

    finally some styligh guy
    http://milexblog.blogspot.co.uk

  41. Joseph

    February 25, 2013 at 9:26 pm

    Scott, I believe that one may interpret the user’s comment to mean that the man in the shot casts “proportion, coherence, harmony” to the wind while nonetheless staying within more conservative fashion codes. In other words, saying “be damned” to style strictures does not necessitate a skirt made out of bubble gum or a hat made out of toilet paper. In this way, I actually think that the user might be agreeing with you. It is not entirely clear where his/her value judgment lies.

  42. Topol

    February 25, 2013 at 11:25 pm

    The outfit is not anarchic. The colors and patterns are all anchored by the wide expanse of neutral tan in the great coat.

  43. Topol

    February 25, 2013 at 11:27 pm

    Shark teeth print pants? I thought you mentioned something had to do with fashion.

  44. David

    February 26, 2013 at 6:11 am

    You can talk about expression and style and art all you’d like, but sometimes things look ridiculous in an effort to look different.

  45. Lydia

    February 26, 2013 at 6:28 am

    If you don’t take the chance when you’re young, you’ll regret when you’re old!

    ravenmaidenmaven.blogspot.com

  46. Jenlan

    February 26, 2013 at 6:58 am

    Lovely Paul Smith shark teeth print!

  47. Mustafa Kacar

    February 26, 2013 at 11:02 am

    Confident and a rebel – being from New York, I see this all the time so it’s all good with me.
    http://www.thekacar.com

  48. jy196

    February 26, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    Completely agree with your commentary re the young, the avant garde (not always the same) and their role in pushing the creative envelope. And there is a discernible difference between those who deliberately push proportions, colors, textures with a net result being something resembling dissonance, and those who achieve dissonance through pure disregard for proportions, colors, textures, etc. This young man is clearly in the deliberate camp.

  49. Energie

    February 26, 2013 at 4:12 pm

    Scott, I think i mentioned this when I initially commented on the initial post on this outfit (which I thought was a wonderful breath of wintery air), that I am often surprised by the comments on this site – it is not uncommon to read, in the context of pants exposing ankles such as this gentleman’s, for instance, that “pants too short”, or my all-time favourite “are we expecting floods?”, for those that are really cute! For crying in a bucket, you’d think these people havent seen a single menswear show in the last, oh I don’t know, 5-6 years (Thom Browne wanted us in three quarter length pants like 10 years ago!). People are quick to forget that 10 years ago, a man in slim-cut jeans would have caused a scandal. One of the primary values of modern fashion, I’d argue, is to constantly push the boundaries of what it is that we should be wearing right now. Thank goodness for it, and bravo to anyone who translates it on the street.

  50. Anne

    February 26, 2013 at 4:32 pm

    Thank you. Really. This made my evening :)

    Scott for president

  51. fay

    February 26, 2013 at 8:10 pm

    Personally, I think that there is some form of harmony or coherence to this outfit. That is not to say that I like it, I don’t. But there is some harmony here- perhaps the symmetry of direct opposites?

    If these would just be a haphazard mix of clothing thrown on to one person- you would never have paused or looked twice.

    You wrote: Youth is about mashing, breaking and reassembling life to find new answers for your generation.

    I think the last part is key- finding answers. And how can there answers without conherence? Breaking something for the purpose of breaking does not automatically result in beauty.

  52. Pallavi

    February 27, 2013 at 1:20 pm

  53. Hale

    February 28, 2013 at 10:26 pm

    Nah. Trying way too hard.

  54. Nena

    March 1, 2013 at 11:44 pm

    Well said. What an great outfit!

  55. Mary

    March 18, 2013 at 12:44 pm

    This to me is one of the best put together outfits I have seen, but what does it for me is the attitude on this young mans face….he screams cool.

  56. Erik

    March 19, 2013 at 9:33 pm

    Isaiah! Such a great guy and so extremely talented: http://www.youngprofashionals.com/2013/03/isaiah-isaac.html

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