Sart, usually I think your eye is spot-on, but this? Seriously? I really like his shirt, but everything from the waist down is a hot mess. It looks like two separate people got cut in half and reattached at the middle. No offense, but the fishnets make it look like he was going for drag but then forgot along the way…
I am speechless. What happened? Is that a foto montage or … two people in one shot… I dontÂ´t get it. The upper part of the outfit, including his face and hair is – at least in my point of view- completely different from the lower part. Looking at the fish net stockings, shoes and trousers, IÂ´d expect something like a white shirt, collar, may be bow tie, may be a topper hat! (stereotype, yes.) But surprise… I see a desert-safari-shirt !
I guess heÂ´s an artist who left his rehearsals for lunchtime.
My immediate response was that he had a sense of humor, wearing fishnets for the rain, but he’s not laughing. Making fishnet anything look good on a man would be quite a challenge- it’s even tricky for women to wear them without looking either cheap or a chiche- though it could probably be done. Not here though. Still, a fearless move and credit for that! And it did rain, didn’t it? I thought of you yesterday as Hannah dumped rain on us and wondered if it was hindering your work. Hope it didn’t too much.
why??! you mean why NOT? part of the fun of this site, at least for me, is wondering about the subject…where he was going, what he does for a living, etc. if everyone dressed the same, it wouldn’t be any fun, now would it?
so now, let the speculation commence.
ps. i doubt it’s full-leg pantyhose, probably knee highs from a random nyc sex shop.
his outfit is a mess. I don’t want to say fishnets should never be on a man,because they kind of look good on his legs w/ the cropped pants, but the rest of his clothes needs overhaul. I’d start with a less dressier shoe for starters
Shame everyone is hating on this, because although it’s not for everyone, it’s really a very strong look.
If you look past the “big guy in safari shirt and fishnets” you’ll see his proportions are spot-on. The jumbo fishnets are a great accessory: in perfect contrast with the formal chalk stripe on his pants, and just-so with the (dancer’s?) shoes. The phone and umbrella give it a businesslike touch. Maybe the shirt could have been white – but then that wouldn’t work quite so well with his coloring. All in all, I think he pulls it off very well.
Kudos to you, sir! Big Thanks to Sartorialist for bringing you here.
While you go down this outfit it gets worse and worse: shirt: I love it!!!, pants, not my cup of tea, but they have an interesting dandy touch, then fishnets, on a man? I hate the idea. The shoes are OK, but paired with those fish nets… I can’t even look at them twice! Sorry to say it this way.
I expected to see more positive comments; I’m surprised. (What’s happened to New York!!?)
The look itself is surprising because it doesn’t seem expected from this guy. I find it interesting that he pairs the stockings with kind of cloddish, distinctly masculine shoes.
It’s only after you see the stockings that you realize his shorts have some style to them too.
I think it’s a fresh, shocking, intelligent comment–aggressive, almost sexy, repulsive-attractive, a little scary. It directly reflects an interesting, daring, questioning mind.
I laughed at the word ‘unhinged’ that one of your commenters used. Good word. Yes, there’s definitely that, too. But it’s done with such awareness, grooming, and all the right accessories, so that one can tell he’s actually not.
I’d also disagree that fishnets for men only look good on drag queens. With drag queens, the look is so over-the-top and expected. It’s appealing, I guess, but no longer fresh. It’s establishment now.
I’m not saying I’d want my boyfriend wearing fishnets–well, maybe ONCE–but SOMEONE’s got to shake things up and make us think new thoughts about gender and style, no?
As a woman, I myself–and my friends–don’t like to wear fishnets with heels AND short dress AND makeup AND ‘hair’, because you end up looking tacky–or like a transvestite! We always add something ‘down’, or undo something, to make it say something more cool.
On that note, I think one of the reasons that Tim Curry was so wildly popular as Frank-N-Furter in The Rocky Horror Picture Show was that he brought such unabashed macho masculinity to the drag queen role. It was this unexpected juxtaposition that made him so sexy.
I’m not saying that this guy brings anything nearing that magnetism, panache, or star power to this outfit, but it’s somewhere along the same lines.
For my part, I’m relieved to see someone daring enough to do this in these times.
i find the idea fresh and intriguing. i deem it bizarre that in fashion women are allowed to play with masculine clothing items (without any taboo it seems) whereas men are not – see comments above. i do not appreciate the way the man in the photo wears the fishnets either, but the idea certainly is clever.
Sart – I can see you chose this because it was an attempt at being directional, and in the right context it might work on a guy (I can’t imagine how, but maybe in a matador or period punk inspired getup?) but here it is absolutely not working to the point of it being horrifying. Maybe if it was cold…?
btw I saw you on Mulberry Street recently but it took a while for me to register it was you, so if you saw someone shady staring at you, its because I thought maybe I knew you from somewhere (sorry).
I don’t understand the odd juxtaposition. As a style statement it’s not cohesive enough. However it’s interesting in a slightly crazed kind of way. If you’re going to cross dress or be a bit more androgynous why not push it more?
I’ve decided it’s the shoes that really make this statement serious, rather than whacky. This isn’t a bit humorous. He may have succeeded in de-psychologizing the fishnet thing thing for himselfâ€¦ I can too, kinda. But that’s only because I wore knickers “breeches”â€”(brit) while climbing in the mountains for years up until the mid ’80s. They ARE coming back, though. I’ve heard it going ’round.
I am not opposed with men experimenting with fishnets but the way I see it, the problem lies in his choice of shirt. Had he chosen a more fitted blouse the look would have been a little easier on the eyes. This combination, however is just awful.
I’m very open-minded and honstly, bravo to anyone who will defy what we accept as normal and go for something new; I’m all for that. But to me, this particular man’s outfit doesn’t work because he seems so heavy! Heavy in size and demeanour. It needs a certain amount of candour, humour and lightness to work, and I don’t think he has that. Put this on a different guy and who knows, it might just work.
As a rule when I look at your blog, I’m most interested in those of your subjects who manage to dress a la mode but are not slaves to fashion, or those who are highly individual without being outre. With this image and the one of matching shorts-and-tats, I’m fascinated by the difference in response. Shorts-and-tats was quite widely admired; fishnets guy is mostly reprehended. To me, they are both splendid. I wonder why people find fishnets outre? Personally, I think he looks grand and I love his defenders: “why not?” indeed – how sad not to applaud others’ playfulness and invention. So much more appealing than the litany of “where can I get that dress/those shoes/ that necklace.”
It’s fashion week in New York, people! Open your eyes, open your minds, embrace your sense of adventure and sense of humour! Burn your ill-fitting blue jeans, faded T’s and sneakers. Thank you fishnet dude for being so thought-provoking, Thank you Sart for seeing and sharing, Thank you landis smithers, ephidrina and Jorge from WPB for getting it and being positive! (ok, rant over, i was just so disappointed to see so many negative comments…)
Interesting. Some commentators think that a more light-hearted man(ner) could pull it off better, but I think it would be too close to drag/camp to really pull it off. As some others have noted, details such as grooming and accessories make it more masculine, and are anti-drag.
Also, are they really fishnets, or just sheer patterned knee-highs? Between his skin color and having the focus plane about 3-4 feet behind the subject, it’s hard to tell.
I know the Sart almost never answers questions about technique, but I’ll ask anyway; why did you put focal plane where you did? I have a guess.
I must applaud his individuality and bravado!!! Mostly everybody criticises this fellow, however I have seen much worse outfits in this site, typical of mere fashion victims, which most people praise but that others might consider tacky, vulgar, tasteless or simply trĂ¨s nouveau rich. One must always remember that one’s idea of chic/stylish is not necessarily the others’ and that fashion nowadays is generally about finding new ways, no matter how tasteless they might seem to some. It is a matter of evolution I think. One might wish to have the good sense of tailoring fashions to one’s taste and style, instead of just blindly following them, however, this is not something one sees very often though.
Disturbing in a Silence of the Lambs kind of way. Fishnets could be part of a silly/humorous/ironic look. It doesn’t have to be drag queen-extreme, but just…something…color? Fun patterns? An oversized bowtie? The fishnets make me thing lighthearted-humor. But then my eyes move upwards and reach the expression on the guy’s face and my skin starts to crawl.
I just wonder if this gentleman had been carrying a designer purse instead of a cheap umbrella, would he have received more acceptance? Karl Lagerfeld and his fan have something of the same air. A good catch for a foto, as usual.
To me, the only real difficulty with this outfit is the proportions. The “pouf” factor of the pants (lovely in its own right) combined with the length of the untucked shirt makes his legs look very short. That being said, although I am never a fan of fishnets (on women or otherwise), I really, really like the way they look with the mens dress shoes. I think the whole thing works very well from the knees down surprisingly enough. I also, really appreciate having been surprised and actually required to question my fashion assumptions. Yay for fasion week! :)
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