I’ve been in Italy a few times, :)) in summer and in winter, but you can say that from north (area Milano) to Naples the man wear long socks. Further south that depends of the man and of course the season. Never seen an Italian wearing a summer suit in winter. Why would there be a fashion for autumn/winter or spring/summer? But if he like’s to wear no socks in winter, don’t complain if you got cold feet!
The Moschino top is very young, very cute. Looks great on her, however this gets me thinking about logos, in general. So on that note, but in line with handbags rather than sweaters…I almost bought a Louis Vuitton bag yesterday, but ultimately decided the only reason would be ego. You see, none of the bags are free from the logo, be it embossed, or printed. I have several “last a lifetime” bags already, so I don’t need another rugged, heirloom bag. This bag would only do one thing for me: show others that I spent the money, and what that means to perfect strangers shouldn’t amount to much, really. For that money I could buy two round trip tickets to Dublin and create a lifetime of memories, or spend a week at the coast in style. I could give that money to my kids, utterly delighting them (I did, in fact, wind up giving my kids money, instead). I don’t have “stupid money” to throw around on luxury items I don’t need, nor do I think most people do.
But that ISN’T to say certain items are not worth the craftsmanship and longevity when it can be afforded. I support the idea of luxury goods. It’s just too bad in this day and age the luxury houses have sold out, or changed so much that it is all about profit at the expense of true quality, and those who consume the goods are buying too often for status, not quality–they’ll buy anything with a logo. For me, I want the good quality leather with NO logo. For many, though, it seems they’re willing to finance (ie. go into debt with a credit card) for a “gotta have” piece that only gives them a fleeting sense of importance. I would love to see beautiful things without the logos.
Terrific post, Trinity, I agree absolutely. In fact I was confronted with precisely the same decision a few years ago and decided, same as you did and for the same reasons, not to buy the bag. I spent a lovely, carefree week in Paris instead and never regretted it. I have a few lovely, well-crafted things without logos, several of them heirlooms; if I had lots of money, I would look out for more high quality stuff, perhaps a pair of custom-made shoes. But it isn’t as though I needed them, I love my life as it is and I certainly don’t need to impress others by sporting some logo.
Ahh, this is so refreshing to hear, Jessie. I am sure there must be others out there who feel the same way, too. I’m glad I’m not alone. And a week in Paris sounds outstanding! I would bet that you can remember all the loveliness of that trip, but had you bought the bag….not a single moment of carrying it to any particular place, or the looks on the faces of impressed or jealous onlookers, or of those who might have assumed it was a fake. I’m glad you responded here. Clearly you are a person who needs no expensive bag to be of class and distinction.
Hi Jessie, I am from America! LOL. Yes, I know, I know. But then this is exactly why I feel the way I do about logos. Growing up in the 1980′s suburbs of Dallas, Texas logos were de rigueur. As a poor college student going “hippie chic” was cool back then. As a young housewife in Rochester, NY suburbs social positioning became a big deal again, and thus more logos. I’m sure these are the people you are seeing on their vacations in Berlin. But over a dozen years of boredom and superficiality of the suburbs took it’s toll and my family re-arranged its perspective. We now live in Phoenix in a farming community, mainly full of Mexican people who, in general terms, are family oriented and non-pretentious. I find that now that I can afford the luxury items I prefer Levis and a t-shirt. This may sound controversial, but I am a white person who purposefully chose to live away from white people of my own class because people of my kind generally compete, overspend and aren’t necessarily well informed, which I find to be a stressful and dull combination. It’s been almost a year and a half out here and I wake up to a sprawling hacienda, a pool and a mountain view, but I can take a short walk and see the goats and horses and dogs on the farms further down my street. What was most shocking to me at first were the stares I got at the local stores, but now I don’t notice that at all. I’m around people I would have been afraid of two years ago, but now I realize how silly I once was. I’m sure I have become my own kind of cliche’. I do love clothes and I’m looking for my own kind of style, which I’m really not sure I’ve found yet.
I totally agree with you Trinity and Jessie. To add a layer, I’m ok with buying quality goods but I find shocking that in addition to investing a considerable amount in a company we should advertise for them!
Good for you, Trinity! Lots of people dream of altering their lifestyle because it doesn’t make sense to them any more, but not many of them actually take the leap. And did I hear you say hacienda, goats, horses and dogs? The green stuff emitting from between the lines of my post is pure envy! Do you have animals of your own? (Who needs a logo if she can have a dog?) I’ve really, really enjoyed our prolonged chat, btw, and I hope Scott will permit this last message (Thanks for your patience, Scott!)
The Wall Street Journal published a survey recently that purported to find that people gained more long-term happiness from purchasing experiences than objects. For example, that the pleasure gained from remembering a wonderful vacation was greater than the pleasure gained from buying a beautiful handbag; the handbag would seem less special as time went on, whereas the memory of a vacation would continue to enhance one’s life.
I truly love this perspective. I actually purchased an LV bag recently for my 30th birthday. Truthfully I went back and forth between spending the money on the bag or not. Then I thought to myself “what the heck, you only live once.” In that same year I went to Paris by myself and it was spectacular. Every time I look at my purse I never feel regret. I simply remember “that was for my 30th.” I can’t say I would purchase another though. I suppose I had a 30year “bucket list” lol. In two months, I’ll be going to Italy for 2 weeks. Truth be told no material object is as wonderful as an experience. No purse can ever make one feel the way memories do. But while I carry my Louis Im reminded of my 3oth year and the time I spent walking down the Champ-Elysees…
I’ve always found that wearing something with huge or numerous logos, amounts to keeping the price tag on and sticking out, so that everyone would see how exceptional you are for having so much money. (Assuming the money is really yours, and not your spouse or parents’, but that’s a different story).
Not for everyone, we have our shared money for the house, food taxes and these other things, and then each one his money, that we can share for a project, a present… but the money he earns isn’t mine and vice-versa.
Wonderful post. As a sidebar, a friend of mine recently, to mark a major birthday, got a Chanel bag from her hubby. Being French, she was so excited because it’s a real “symbol” for a French woman. It was very expensive, but, hey…
The damned thing broke the second time she wore it.
Please forgive me but I do not know what any of your comments are about.
All I can see is that girl in the second photo looking over her shoulder in that plaid sleeveless vest. And these words keep going through my head, Who has not loved, who loved not at first sight? What must I do to get next to you?
Amo gli anni ’90 si sentono del primo vestito. Mi piace il giubbotto nel 2 Â° foto. Mi sarebbe sicuramente vestire come la donna nel 4 Â° foto. La giacca o cardigan in ultima foto Ã¨ splendida e vibrante. Godetevi un fine settimana rilassante.
I think sporting a logo, buying the mass produced off the shelf trend or wearing the exact outfit from a runway show is the same thing/concept. To fashionably conform or not fashionably conform that is the question…. I love Shakespeare. =)
I don’t feel it’s quite the same thing, Lis. Wearing mass produce is, as you correctly state, about conforming, i.e. trying to adapt and not stand out negatively – while sporting logos is like saying “Hey, look at me, I can afford this, dontcha wish you could, too?” Re wearing the exact outfit from a runway show, well, I guess that’s somewhere in between, depending on the wearer. For rich women, I’d say it is also about conforming, trying not to look different than your (rich) friends, while for women who are neither rich nor have rich friends, it’s just another way of saying “Hey, look at me, I can afford this…” (see above), albeit not quite as obvious as flashing logos ;)
I refuse to wear anything with a logo and I don’t understand anyone who does.
The logos on bags are becoming much too obvious. I do not buy a bag because of the brand. I buy it because it’s what i want and need. Nice leather (or cloth), the right size, zipper pocket on the outside, nice colour, &c. I don’t want some huge piece of metal proclaiming the brand. I really don’t.
Love the first picture–she is certainly the billboard for such a top.
Not too sure about the lady with the gold Air Maxes–love the shoes, the rest of her outfit minus the bag falls very short. She is so fit, yet wears such formless clothing. She could stand some nice well fitting black denim and a slim top and blazer to really round out her accessories. Nice eyewear choice though.
The guy in the brown suit at the runway show needs to find some socks. Really.
I think the man looks fabulous. I am not a fan of socks, and will go bare until snow falls. I don’t really see the problem. I really like the last photo, too…the color, pattern, shape and texture of coat and shoes are wonderful.
I don’t think that the all-over logo adds anything to the top in the first photo. If the model was a typical “tourist” and not a gorgeous young woman, I don’t think this look would get many positive comments.
Devil’s advocate here: I hate logos too (there are few things tackier than a “look who made me!!” bag), but the Moschino sweater is so over-the-top that it seems to actually be commenting on the ridiculousness of logos. In the process, of course, it does advertise the brand. But the sheer number of logos, their size, and their typographical & color reference to another iconic logo–one that would not usually be associated with adult clothing–seem to turn it into a joke. I just wonder if everyone who wears the sweater gets that.
The thing about “ironic” clothes is that you never know whether or not the wearer “gets” the irony of what he or she is wearing. Same goes for the viewer. Maybe some people get a kick out of walking around in an outfit that most people find ridiculous while a tiny minority is in on the joke – it takes all sorts, I guess.