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January 28, 2014 at 2:29 pm
i think it’s meant to be like that :)
January 28, 2014 at 4:20 pm
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January 28, 2014 at 4:23 pm
January 29, 2014 at 1:19 pm
this is utilitarian, no way he shortened the sleeves himself. i like his little bag! :)
February 4, 2014 at 1:13 am
His look is brilliant!
I wonder how much this fellow would care about all the comments here?!…
February 9, 2014 at 12:20 am
Probably a bit. I am sure everyone likes to be noted and complimented.
January 28, 2014 at 3:10 pm
Love the bag, such a great color.
January 28, 2014 at 3:22 pm
C’est plutôt le génie marocain des couleurs !
January 28, 2014 at 3:29 pm
Don´t glamorize this whatsoever-
January 28, 2014 at 5:42 pm
January 29, 2014 at 6:30 am
… because you can see in his face, that there is no space for your glamour-stuff in his life!
January 29, 2014 at 7:47 pm
Just because he’s not as rich as you, don’t patronise him. Rich people don’t have the monopoly on looking in a mirror and thinking : ‘I’m looking good today and I am going to wear the yellow bag to match my sweater.’
Poor people have self respect and personal vanity and good taste too you know.
January 30, 2014 at 9:26 am
Excellent reply Amy! I totally agree.
February 2, 2014 at 6:50 am
I have to say that this picture makes me feel very uncomfortable. Did you ask him to take his picture and to publish it later on? Or maybe you just assumed that he would not find out about his image being published on such a well-known website as yours? His outfit does look matched, the blue and yellow looks very put together. And I understand that you’re trying to show fashionable people all around the world, I also like it a lot that you’re almost not showing off-duty models. And maybe it is I who is hypocritical about this, I don’t know. But I am having mixed feelings.
January 29, 2014 at 9:05 am
I have to agree with marie. My bet is he shortened the sleeves because the fabric in the elbows area was too damaged. Seeing this as stylish is pure cynicism.
January 29, 2014 at 11:22 am
I think that is a little bit ridiculous. I come from a developing country. Having less money or working hard does not mean one lives in tragedy every day. Nor does it mean one is incapable or uninterested in clothes, colours, and looking good. You can see nothing in his face except seriousness and maybe tiredness, everyone is serious and tired at times. Don’t assume people in different circumstances are necessarily unhappy or unable to enjoy picking out their clothes :)
February 1, 2014 at 2:03 pm
My thoughts exactly.
January 28, 2014 at 3:50 pm
Morocco is a fantastic city of truth and beauty!
January 30, 2014 at 2:44 am
Morocco is a country.
January 28, 2014 at 3:51 pm
Loving yellow for this spring!
January 28, 2014 at 4:02 pm
To me it looks like the jacket used to be part of some uniform/ working outfit… Maybe?
January 28, 2014 at 4:11 pm
Life IS art.
January 28, 2014 at 4:14 pm
Your visual progression is fascinating. Delighted that you share. Thank you
January 28, 2014 at 4:17 pm
This looks like a street person! I’m sure it came down to what he had available to wear. Please don’t link this to fashion…
January 30, 2014 at 7:28 pm
Fashion is what we wear, Style is how we wear it.
January 31, 2014 at 1:59 pm
And fashion isn’t inspired by what is happening on the street?
January 28, 2014 at 4:27 pm
I’m pretty sure the guy is very much inspired by Dries van Noten. And he probably cares so much about matching his countless sweaters and bags.
January 28, 2014 at 4:35 pm
The little pop of red on the Adidas logo really completes it. I vote for pre-shortened sleeves.
Judith A. Ross
January 28, 2014 at 5:00 pm
I’ll have to forward this to my son who lives near Ouarzazate…. and owns one of those sweaters, which he bought there second hand, I believe (Peace Corps volunteers don’t have a lot of discretionary income. He refers to Morocco as “the place where clothes go to die,” and his sweat stained, faded and worn out jacket and jeans are testimony to that truth.
So while I think he would be amused by this photo and your comment, I do see it the way that you do — and I noticed while I was in Morocco, that many of the young men I encountered were masters of mixing prints.
January 28, 2014 at 5:21 pm
…too late people…
….he’s already been picked up by Saint Laurent and will be seen in New York Spring/Summer show…
January 28, 2014 at 5:23 pm
I must agree with marie, don’t glamorize this. Though I do find the picture wonderful, like all your pictures, I once remember reading how you didn’t agree with other streetstyle photographers taking pictures of people who are homeless and thereby glamorizing it in any way.
I find it hard not to think this is exactly the same…
I believe that the length of his jacket is the last thing on his mind.
January 28, 2014 at 5:41 pm
I don’t think this gentleman is homeless. he seemed no richer or poorer than any of the other men at the market.
February 18, 2014 at 10:08 am
I don’t suggest that he is homeless, but that he is poor I think is quite clear, whether he is richer or poorer than any of the other men on the market is beside the point. So what is the difference between taking this kind of photograph in Morocco or in NYC? The difference in income if probably minimal and the likelihood of them dressing in order to express themselves rather than just keeping warm is just as big.
I don’t object to the picture as such but rather your comments about him that seem so so naive, bordering on ignorance. But I hope you are right, that he did put that jacket on in a way of expressing himself, and not only to keep warm..
January 28, 2014 at 5:35 pm
Dear Mr Sartorialist,
I don’t think that Maroccan has the means to do “vintage shopping” and rather think he still has it from the 70′s.
January 28, 2014 at 5:40 pm
Lovee this photograph. Gotta love my homeland.
I think he bought it like that.
January 28, 2014 at 7:27 pm
it’s a working shirt he’s had from 20-30 years ago. look for photos from 60-70 for working class people. by the looks of it, what he has on is probably the few pieces of clothing he owns to keep him warm.
January 28, 2014 at 7:58 pm
Come on people!!! Scott is just trying to create a background or story around this character, it’s not that he knows this guy and can tell if that outfit was really chosen consciously or it was by chance. That’s what photography is about! capturing a moment and letting it speak by itself, but obviously, we all can’t hear the same thing.
January 28, 2014 at 8:15 pm
I have to agree with some of the comments here. Do you really think this guy tailored his sleeves to achieve a specific look or are you just reaching to make a fashion connection for the blog?
January 28, 2014 at 8:51 pm
It’s kind of inspiring!
January 28, 2014 at 10:28 pm
maybe its part of an all uniform, it looks like that to me
and iactually think i ve seen people wear this some time
January 28, 2014 at 11:37 pm
I just think is an utilitarian piece. Like a waiters jacket or a janitors overall. It looks like strudy fabric and pretty well aged. The shorten sleeves must have a purpose…
January 29, 2014 at 12:11 am
Holdover from the 70s – look at how perfectly they are finished!
I also enjoy the juxtaposition of the rustic sweater and battered satchel with the Adidas watch cap.
January 29, 2014 at 1:11 am
I think it’s awesome! I wouldn’t have thought twice about his layering and style, but I’m interested to hear your thoughts on it. I agree with Alex!
January 29, 2014 at 3:43 am
Beautiful picture, and it could be sartorially amusing… without your musing.
I really hope for you that once in your life you have the opportunity to experience living in a poor “exotic” country without your Amex and bookings in luxury hotels. You will then probably still take beautiful pictures of people, but will refrain from making comments that make you sound like an insensitive hipster who got on the wrong plane (I am not saying you are, but I do not think you have yet thought through what you’re doing with this kind of image).
When you are curious about the motivations behind sartorial decisions, why don’t you ask people? You might learn something, and us too. Because for now, this is just plain silly.
Thanks in advance!
January 29, 2014 at 1:46 pm
January 30, 2014 at 5:25 am
I agree Julie, the most common experience when I am out taking photographs is that shooting generates conversations and discussion – for me most recently with police and security guards or passers by who usually know more than I do about what I am shooting.
A conversation is provoked by the event of the photograph that either gives more dimensions to the image I didn’t know about or more importantly, the interaction is valuable, social and equal.
So Sartorialist, – is it possible to take such intimate shots without this verbal, human exchange?
February 1, 2014 at 7:48 am
well said indeeed. Shame on you Scott.
January 29, 2014 at 4:38 am
Awesome, maybe the next trend for the casual people here in germany :D
January 29, 2014 at 5:30 am
Perhaps at the very least The Sartorialist should have discovered what this man’s situation actually is – then he wouldn’t be open to criticisms about glamorising poverty. I’m afraid just looking at the photos I have to agree with the people who think that it’s a bit tasteless to take this kind of shot; I thought the same about some of the Bali photos. It’s not okay to just look at the world through the lens of fashion – sometimes you have to consider the moral dimension!
January 29, 2014 at 6:32 am
Hi Sartorialist, I’m sorry to tell you that but I think you are a true idiot. I always doubted it, but now I’m completely convinced. Look at this guys hands please. Look how dirty they are. Look at the repaired handle of his bag. Now guess how much money he may spare to fashion. Ask yourself how many jackets or pants he may have in total. And now ask yourself again if this outfit is a coincidence or his style preference, or if he would keep or cut the sleeves WHEN HE’S LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE SOMETHING TO WEAR.
January 29, 2014 at 7:53 am
so the poor can’t have an artist heart? you have no facts about this man and you just want to paint him as a hopeless poor soul. Maybe I see the light of hope in the people I saw in this market. In two hours I found three men with very interesting style that may or may not have been a coincidence. Once you’ve see all three images it will be hard to say theres not something special going on, something more than just surviving. These people were poor but not poverty stricken, no one was begging for money or trying to sell me somehting for my american dollars. These were nice people going about their everyday lives.
January 29, 2014 at 11:40 am
The poor can have an artist heart but they don’t think in your categories (like vintage, maybe I’ll cut the sleeves?…).Seriously this guy has dirty clothes and damaged bag. Just because he didn’t ask for your american dollars doesn’t mean he doesn’t need money. People have their dignity.
January 30, 2014 at 9:32 am
“so the poor can’t have an artist heart?” Perhaps you should ask, Can the rich have an artist heart?
January 30, 2014 at 5:26 pm
indeed. or merely the eye…
January 30, 2014 at 3:29 am
Let’s assume the man is poor. Let’s assume he is unhappy and did not make a concious choice about his outfit.
Does that automatically mean that Mr. Schumann is not allowed to take a picture of him? Or does it mean that he is not allowed to place the picture in any other context than one of pity?
The man is wearing what he’s wearing, whatever the reason, doing what he is doing on an average day and along comes Mr. Schumann who sees it with his fashion trained eye and sees a relevance from a fashion point of view.
Does he have to appologize for this?
To me the worries about the man and his situation seem more patronizing than Mr. Schumann taking a picture of him. Why assume he is not able to speak for himself and object to a photographer taking a picture of him? Colonial.
And assuming Mr. Schumann was any less courteous to this guy than to some fashion-type in Milan, is giving him a lot less credit than he deserves (this is in reply to a comment on the next picture..).
January 31, 2014 at 12:15 am
Barbara, I wholeheartedly agree with you.
January 29, 2014 at 9:13 am
My son was a Peace Corps volunteer in Benin, Africa. The people had very little money, but loved to dress in vibrant prints and color. Scott is right, just because one is poor in money does not mean one is poor in spirit. Those with that spark of wanting to display who they are by how they present themselves in appearance are everywhere. I appreciate that universal truth, and enjoy it.
January 29, 2014 at 9:34 am
I’m totally convinced that taste and a feeling for style doesn’t have anything to do with money. Some people simply are more stylish than other. Isn’t that what street style is all about? No one can tell if this man is aware of how he put his style together, but everyone can feel free to get inspired by him.
January 29, 2014 at 10:30 am
Charity clothes IMO , but interesting and very beautiful picture! I prefer this from rich people and fashion editors thousands of dollars outfit!!!
January 29, 2014 at 10:35 am
I agree with many of the comments that state one should not glamorize an image such as this. The man’s posture–stooped over– his furrowed forehead, and the emotion registered on his face, don’t suggest that he has time for fashion. We need to remember that choice of clothing–and fashion–is a sign of privileged existence. To me at least, this man seems to possess none of that privilege. This is a beautiful image; your gaze is clearly empathetic , but your comments tend to trivialize your gaze.
January 29, 2014 at 10:46 am
Seriously, don’t be so ignorant.
January 29, 2014 at 10:57 am
Love the mustard with the blue for sure. Such a cool man! x
January 29, 2014 at 11:00 am
would have been just perfect w/o the logo on the hat. let me photoshop it for ya. :)
January 29, 2014 at 11:07 am
Second thought: I remember me ( as a child)
walking with my mother in the center of Athens, where I saw a man dressed like this (who looked like homeless). My mother scolded me: ” Don’t stare at him like this and don’t judge him! He is one of the best painters in Greece!”
January 29, 2014 at 11:11 am
No Sart, he probably found that jacket on the same dump as where he found the rest of his outfit. Gimme a break will you!
January 29, 2014 at 11:36 am
It´s a shame that people do not associate poverty with glamour, why is that? visit any African country, you will be met with extreme poverty but people are still conscious of what they are wearing.
January 29, 2014 at 6:55 pm
I totally agree. Have lived in rural Uganda for some time and surrounded by people with very little money, I can tell you there is no waste in clothes and people always want to make sure they look “smart”. If the clothes don’t fit or a rip, you take it a seamstress and make it new again.
January 29, 2014 at 11:41 am
I come from a developing country and I think it’s very silly to assume people who have less money or lead different lives from you live in tragedy every day of their lives. The Sartorialist is more respectful to the man by assuming that he is capable, like any human being, of enjoying what he wears and wanting to look nice even if he is going to work, than people claiming that a man who looks poorer than they is not only uninterested but almost incapable of enjoying beautiful things or of matching colours or looking at his clothes in the morning and deciding a particular combo looks nicer than another. Where do you think ethnic costumes or crafts come from then?? From a tragic life of having no time to have even a bit of fun? You show your ignorance by assuming that. People don’t have to lead your way of life to be happy sometimes. Go to a developing country and actually look at the people. I see nothing in this man’s face except seriousnesss and a bit of tiredness, which everybody feels sometimes.
January 29, 2014 at 12:14 pm
My brother like me is very poor, but has some of the best taste. He finds clothes on the street all the time and puts them together. Soul of a fashionista. He actually critiques other people’s clothing choices with great insight. Um, poor does not equal hopeless.
January 29, 2014 at 5:18 pm
I recently saw a guy in my town (near Melbourne, Australia) looking through the rubbish bins for cigarette buts etc. He had a great haircut and was wearing a very gorgeous leather jacket. Everything else about him said it was obvious he was either homeless or living off the street, but that he also had pride in looking good and being “on trend”. My husband later told me there’s a charity here that recycles coats and jackets and gives them to people
living rough. So, ANYONE can take some interest in what they wear and how they express themselves despite the circumstances – they may not feel up for it evey day and the opportunities may not be there every day either. So, we shouldn’t be so micro-critical or judgemental. Scott, I love your shots but don’t fall into the trap of over-annylising your own pictures: they speak a thousand
words already. L.
January 29, 2014 at 12:36 pm
Agree with many comments. Stop glamorizing people like this.
“this gentleman chooses his outfit this carefully everyday or if this was just a happy accident.” Seriously …
January 29, 2014 at 4:50 pm
I am myself a Moroccan. I was born in Morocco, my mom is French and my dad is a moroccan, born in the middle of nowhere, son of a poor man – poor in means of course. My dad studied a lot and realized his dreams, even though he was the luckiest one in the family. My family is not rich at all, but all my life, I saw women and men matching their jellabas and their veil, their babouches and their tarbouch. I am sorry to see that most occidental tend to see people from poor or developing country with the same eyes people saw them 50 or 100 years ago. Have you ever seen pictures of a Moroccan wedding ? Have you ever seen Africans and their amazing colourful clothes ? Do you really think that fashion only comes from the rich and famous of this world ? If yes, then you guys don’t know a single thing about street style, but mostly you guys don’t know a single thing about other countries. The first step in understanding the people you meet when you travel in those countries is to try and see them through their eyes, not your occidental closed minded ones. And I know a lot of you probably call themselves “concerned” and will call Scott “ignorant”. Okay, this man probably has only a few sweaters and pants in his little apartment or house, but it doesn’t mean he CAN’T and WON’T think of the pretty things. The question here is what is fashion to you guys ? Glamourous life or interesting choices in clothing ?
January 30, 2014 at 3:57 am
Word, Sabrine! You nailed it! “The question here is what is fashion to you guys ? Glamourous life or interesting choices in clothing ?”
My grandparents were poor but my grandmother was very particular with what she put on, and everything had to be clean and neat. My grandfather was always very elegant. Small means demand large creativity.
January 30, 2014 at 6:50 am
I love your reply! Fashionista minds think that only people with money can ascribe to fashion not people from the ’3rd world’
January 30, 2014 at 9:36 am
Sabrine – you defined the entire situation perfectly! Thank you.
Antonio Jose Guzman
January 29, 2014 at 5:45 pm
Thanks to sabrine and laura for their words! Is difficult to take the colonial out of the mind of the colonizers. The west had been living by this rules for ages, does any one knows what is cultural appropriation? And how many of the things you are wearing had been influenced by other cultures in the world, you named from parkas to pendleton prints, from moccasins to toms. From Sami cardigans to Kashmir ties.
Everything had been explored and influenced by other cultures. I believe that the most interesting clothes and mixes are done in places like west Africa , Panama’s Kuna islands, the hill tribes of north Thailand, the Sami people of the polar circle. This cultures have a sense of style that are way more evolve to the future that what we have here in the west, is almost boring all what we do in terms of fashion. At last I got to say that trend watchers and fashion designers take there inspirations from every day things, so Dries maybe got inspired by this gentleman in Morocco wearing this fantastic outfit.
January 29, 2014 at 7:59 pm
I have disagreed with Scott many times, but this time the ignorance of the comments shock me.
It is very interesting that we inherently link style with our own overconsumption. If we think that this man is too poor to think about his taste, would we then also say that he is too poor to have a preference in music? Would he then be oblivious to other perceptions of beauty? Do you think he never saw a beautiful woman, for example, or has he never memorised a nice sight because he had more dramatic matters on his mind? Maybe what he is wearing is a complete coincidence and he really didn’t care – but for us to refuse to enjoy what he is wearing because he is poor is arrogant and post-colonial. Through insulting him we insult ourselves – is our taste than really only led by luxury, money, overconsumption? I believe that people are able, and willing to, express themselves through beauty and that they often do it much better than the rich who cannot tell spending apart from expression. My family in Croatia has no money, yet they find a way to get to the coast every year to enjoy the sight of the sea.
January 29, 2014 at 9:11 pm
I think this man looks great, and I believe his choices are conscious ones. Style is not the preserve of the wealthy.
I don’t think he shortened those sleeves though.
January 30, 2014 at 2:43 am
This is GREAT! You really need to see more of Africa, if possible. The amount of sartorial adventure and intuition here and throughout the continent could, and does, put a lot of Western efforts to shame. Specifically here in Kigali, Rwanda; Nairobi, Kenya; Lagos, Nigeria; and so on. There are some astounding levels of creativity and people with the gumption to make something out of nothing and pull it off dashingly. I love this look and have seen it time and again from having lived the past three years in Rwanda.
January 30, 2014 at 3:11 am
Old people (like me) often have clothes that are 30 or more years old. The sleeves came that way, throughout north Africa I have seen this style of man’s suit. It is the Sahara , after all.
Beautiful shot. I see style, I see verve, I see dignity. Poverty is no more relevant than it is when you shoot a stylish but possibly impoverished student in Paris or London. I love it when anyone looks good with limited resources through creativity, and love it that you saw it and captured it.
January 30, 2014 at 4:03 am
This type of suit, with it’s shorter sleeves) is very popular in all of West Africa (quite possibly in other regions as well), as it is hot. Most men wear these ensembles daily.
January 30, 2014 at 5:52 am
Bogart, gimme a break. This man has great style!
January 30, 2014 at 3:08 pm
I’ve visited Marocco and I’m coming from a developing country myself. I think the jacket is part of a summer (?) work uniform. What I appreciate when visiting these countries is the great tailoring and crafts schools and the ease of finding usual/no name clothes which are very well tailored, made of good, healthy textile.
It’s of no importance if there is a happy accident in this outfit. People might or might not spend time in choosing the outfit, might be very preoccupied about that or not. What is extraordinary is that there are people who feel those things, no matter their education or social status.
January 30, 2014 at 9:21 pm
The most valuable thing he is wearing cost him nothing – dignity.
Donnie R. Gayfield
January 31, 2014 at 3:25 am
Thanks for helping to train my eye to see beauty outside of the realms of New York, London, and Paris fashion shows. I think these are photos of “genuine” street style. What they now call street style, I call “fashion editors” style. You are an original.
January 31, 2014 at 6:29 am
Nowadays people know the price of everything and the value of nothing. Oscar Wilde
February 1, 2014 at 7:57 am
Whoa….a lot of backlash there. Please try to understand Scott a little: he is a photographer, who photographs fashion and his perspective on life comes from that and that environment. His colonialism (if that is what his comments were) are intrinsic to his personal status and background. It may be flawed but we all are to some extent. Social commentary from anyone it corrupted by that.
Now, Morocco is a wonderful place and colour is loved and the understanding of colour is in the DNA of the country and it’s people; that man would not stand in front of a mirror and look to see if he was pulling those colour combinations together, he put on clothes and the whole felt natural to him. Simple as that I think.
February 1, 2014 at 1:11 pm
This man – was he asked for permission? – is probably wearing what he had been able to find to wear. Maybe it’s a little excessive to look at a person to seek colour harmony and style in dress and overlook the whole story. I find it a little too far fetched. Respectfully, karol
February 1, 2014 at 8:37 pm
do you really think this man care about fashion?there is morocco market not paris fashion week. you are an orientalist and come on taking photo from chanel , dior .etc which they are the reasons of these people poorness.
February 2, 2014 at 3:14 am
I’m also in a developing country, living in Cape Town, and there are a lot of completely homeless people living on my street. One guy, called Pule, always manages breathtaking stylishness with his meagre clothes choices. Every day, the way he angles his hat, wears his sunglasses or adjusts his collar, no matter how ragged, speaks of an impressive talent for personal style. I’ll share a pic of Pule on Instagram with you, and you’ll see what I mean. x
February 5, 2014 at 1:00 am
I’d love to think of this as an amazing fashion creation out of coincidence.
February 18, 2014 at 4:22 pm
Scott, I am Moroccan and I also have mixed feelings about how you portray these people. Yes, we do mix and match different patterns effortlessly. It’s in our DNA I guess, regardless of how rich or poor we are. BUT I am afraid you have no clue whatsoever what it means to have very little money. Nobody can fully blame you for it. However I am certain many Moroccans would have appreciated it if you would think twice before posting certain comments… I never was a big fan of your site, yet I came here every now and then just for browsing. Your lack of compassion has convinced me to never visit your site again. I am sorry to say that your ignorant comments are quite disgusting…
August 13, 2014 at 11:46 am
I find the style of the ordinary as the most striking!
July 23, 2015 at 8:54 pm
Dries Van Noten